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Trump’s lawyer says “There are no tapes” – Then moments later says “I have been through all the tapes”


Rudy Giuliani is somehow as bad at being Donald Trump’s legal counsel as Donald Trump is at being President.

The latest in a long series of televised bungles had the former NYC mayor admitting Trump did what we’ve always thought he did, but when cornered on his goof up, claiming that “even if he did do it, it wouldn’t be a crime”, he makes yet another goof.

Guliani was asked: “Does it matter to the American people if it’s true? We are living in a democracy here. We want to know these things.”

Giuliani said: “That’s an insane question you just asked me. I am not saying that he did it. I just told you he didn’t do it. I am telling you that their investigation is so ridiculous that, even if he did do it, it wouldn’t be a crime. Now, would the American people be interested in it? Of course. There’s a big difference between what the American people would be interested in and what’s a crime. The American people can be interested in a lot of things people conceal that aren’t crimes. I’m a criminal lawyer. I am not an ethicist. And I defend people against unfair criminal charges.”

That’s a very interesting statement, as moments before, he claimed there were no tapes.

Giuliani was asked: “Where are we now with Trump and Cohen and the BuzzFeed story, and your response to it?”

Giulani said: “I guess the BuzzFeed story—I don’t remember what it said about Cohen—but it said there was corroboration that the President talked to Cohen and told him to lie about, I guess it was, the Moscow proposal. There are no tapes, there are no texts, there is no corroboration that the President told him to lie.”

Moments later…

Giuiani said: “I can tell you, from the moment I read the story, I knew the story was false. Because I have been through all the tapes, I have been through all the texts, I have been through all the e-mails, and I knew none existed. And then, basically, when the special counsel said that, just in case there are any others I might not know about, they probably went through others and found the same thing.”

After getting caught in his mention of tapes, Giuliani backtracks and says: “I shouldn’t have said tapes. They alleged there were texts and e-mails that corroborated that Cohen was saying the President told him to lie. There were no texts, there were no e-mails, and the President never told him to lie.”


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